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April 14, 2013 in Fish Stew

Enough about Jeffrey Loria, the slashed payroll, and the struggles of the offense. The Marlins are, yes, struggling to score runs and as we already discussed, that trend won’t last – but don’t expect it to go completely the other way, too. That is, not until bats like Christian Yelich come online.

Jacob Turner is Struggling – looks like the control issues continue to plague the arm that was supposed to be the #2 starter on this staff. Truthfully, the Marlins made the right call as he continues to work on locating his pitches and getting his velocity back.

Speaking of the Tigers/Marlins trade from last season, it was thought that Turner’s success was necessary for the Fish to break even. Truthfully, a deal with the Tigers will never ever break even just for the sheer fact that they have Miguel Cabrera. That said, Brian Flynn is helping the Marlins come out ahead on this version of the deal. Along with Rob Brantly, the Marlins did acquire some solid MLB ready prospects. Flynn is progressing nicely which offers a bit of hope even though Turner is struggling.

Mark Canha is struggling at AA Jacksonville. He has shown pretty good power (25 HRs in 2011 at Greensboro) but questions abound over his consistency against tougher pitching. Stay tuned.

Who got the better end of the trade? The Blue Jays or the Marlins? Jose Reyes injury does affect this question. Chime in and share your thoughts with us.

Marlins Spring Training 2013: Jacob Turner Sent Down; Giancarlo Goes For Two

March 26, 2013 in Spring Training

Andiamoooooooo Giancarlo! Well, the play call I keep hoping to hear still hasn’t surfaced yet, but if it did, you would hear it twice today. Stanton hit two home runs, one mammoth shot to the top of the batter’s eye in straightaway CF, as the Marlins flexed some muscle and beat the Nats 8-5 today. Chris Valaika also went yard and our boy, Chris Coghlan hit a pinch-hit home run, too. Wondering if he will be the starter in CF, but that looks like it is Ruggiano’s job and Coghlan’s best hope is to make the roster – which leaves Gorkys Hernandez future in question.

It did become official though – Jacob Turner is being sent down to AAA NOLA to work on his control. Mike Redmond admitted it was a tough decision, but the young starter was not really able to show control with his pitches. He was being touted as the team’s #2 starter, but due to his spring struggles, he was not able to deliver. Instead, Nathan Eovaldi takes the second slot followed by Wade LeBlanc, Henderson Alvarez, and Kevin Slowey.

With more roster news, it looks like Casey Kochman, Austin Kearns, and Chad Qualls are going to break camp with the team. Kearns is batting a might .092 this spring, but the Fish are in need of any kind of power they can get. Kochman has a gold-glove talent at 1B and will be used as the de facto starter until Logan Morrison can get back healthy.

Marlins Spring Training 2013: Jacob Turner Likely to Be Demoted, Rotation Set

March 24, 2013 in Spring Training

Jacob Turner could not throw strikes and that was ultimately the deciding factor on his immediate future with the Marlins. In a rain-shortened 4-1 loss to the Astros, Turner walked the lead off batter in every inning he pitched and just struggled with his control. Getting more time at AAA New Orleans will allow him to work on his control a bit and focus more on “pounding the strike zone” as Mike Redmond wants to see his starters do.

In the meantime, the rotation has been pretty much decided. Ricky Nolasco will be the Opening Day starter followed by Nathan Eovaldi, Wade LeBlanc, Henderson Alvarez, and Kevin Slowey. John Maine will get a long relief spot, and may get an occasional spot start. This starting group won’t scare opposing teams, but if they can throw strikes and let the defense behind them control everything else, this team will have success.

As for Turner, he needs to put in more work on his repertoire and locating his pitches effectively. Getting back into the minors may seem like a step down, but Turner is only 21 and was rushed along in the Detroit system – something that adversely affected Andrew Miller and something the Marlins hope to avoid.

Marlins Spring Training 2013: Is Jacob Turner in Danger of Losing Spot in Rotation?

March 16, 2013 in Spring Training

MLB: Cincinnati Reds at Miami MarlinsAccording to Joe Capozzi, the Marlins may be thinking of pushing Jacob Turner out of the rotation. Right now, Turner has a 16.20 ERA in 3.1 IP with 2 K’s and 4 BBs. He is not throwing strikes or “pounding the strike zone”, something of a mantra for manager Mike Redmond’s Marlins this spring.

So far this year, Turner has thrown 40 pitches and only 22 have been for strikes. Yes, that is a very small sample size (only 3 bleeping innings!) but there is cause for concern as Turner continues to work and get his control back. There is some hope though, his last outing Turner went 3.0 IP and struck out 2 and walked 1. He threw 19 pitches – 15 for strikes. A much better ratio and hitters dropped from an .800 average in his first start to only .182 this second time around. His next start will be Tuesday in Jupiter against the Cardinals, the team that roughed him up in his 1/3 of inning work in his spring debut back in February.

The plan may be to start him off in the minors to get more time in and just focus on getting control and bringing him along a bit more slowly. Even though Capozzi paints a dark picture, it is a bit too early to rush to judgement and surely both the Marlins and Turner know this. If he can focus on delivering strikes, and working on refining his mechanics, and getting efficient use of his pitches, then Turner should be good to go as the #2 man in the rotation. If not, expect Kevin Slowey and John Maine to compete for his spot in the rotation until Turner gets things right – which he most certainly will.

This does pose a great strategy for the Marlins, which even the Mets announcers this afternoon picked up on – the Marlins have several veteran arms in camp that can eat up innings if need be, in case the young arms of the Marlins struggle. Right now, Nathan Eovaldi looks the best of the four expected starters – even opening day starter Ricky Nolasco looks a bit out of it.

Marlins 2013 Preview: Pitching

February 18, 2013 in Spring Training

Nathan EovaldiA lot of prognosticators are going out and proclaiming the 2013 Marlins will be a 100 loss team. Even the Marlins own beat writers, Clark Spencer among them, is projecting a similar record for the Fish in 2013. Even though he says that he predicted the same for the 2006 Marlins, then coached by rookie manager Joe Girardi, Spencer stated that the Marlins then were a less known quantity than they are today. The factors he cited were young players without a whole lot of major league experience behind them – so their sampling size, if you will, was more of an unknown factor.

Yet, this team is different. Although most of the players are younger, there seems to be a more known factor for members of the media like Spencer. They can point to guys like Placido Polanco and Juan Pierre, even the starting pitching staff, which we are going to focus on today, has established pitchers in the rotation – even if they are around the age of 23 (outside of Ricky Nolasco, of course).

Most of these projections are not based on empirical data or even much in-depth analysis, but instead on a myriad of factors that are highly subjective. In other words, what looks good on paper is what is expected to play out. So teams like the Blue Jays are hailed as a team on the rise, while the Marlins are rejected for any serious contention. Not many were picking the Nationals a year ago to win 98 games either.

Although 98 wins is not a reasonable projection for even the most optimistic of Marlin fans, what could be expected is a highly competitive season with a bit of a surprise ending. In an earlier article, I predicted the Marlins would finish near .500 and surprise many this year. I will start to back this up with some evidence – less subjective, at any rate – to support where the teams weaknesses are and what we could reasonable expect. Let’s turn to pitching first.

Let’s start by looking at an article recently written by Barry Jackson, where he gives the “skinny” on the Marlins pitching staff. He cites several areas of concern for the Marlins 2013 starting staff, which will consist of Ricky Nolasco, Jacob Turner, Nathan Eovaldi, Henderson Alvarez, and the fifth starter (which I have predicted will be Wade LeBlanc, but could also be Alex Sanabia or even a veteran guy like John Maine).

Jackson is concerned with the amount of contact these starters for the Marlins gave up. In short:

An ace (Ricky Nolasco) who allowed the third-most hits and fourth-most runs in the National League in 2012; a No. 3 starter (Henderson Alvarez, via Toronto) who relinquished the second-most hits and suffered the AL’s fourth-most losses; and a No. 4 starter (Nate Eovaldi) who suffered the NL’s fifth-most losses. In fact, only one projected starter (Jacob Turner) allowed a batting average below .275.

Nolasco’s ratios are running in the wrong direction. His K/9 was 5.9 last season, whereas it was 6.5 in 2011 and peaked at 9.5 back in 2009. It has fallen every season since. Meanwhile, his H/9 has trended in the opposite direction; it was 9.1 in 2009 and rose up to 10.7 in 2011 and stabilized to 10.1 last season. Hitters hit .285 against him last season, whereas they starved against him back in 2008 (.239) and 2009 (.259). Clearly Nolasco is not the same pitcher he was when the Marlins inked him to his current deal and he is certainly not worth the $11M he is currently getting paid – but this deal was earned based on what he was producing back in 2009. Yet, Nolasco is in a contract year, and will be looking to show his value to teams that are willing to grab him for the playoff run and possibly beyond. He wants to show he is worth the $11M and for that, the Marlins get a highly motivated player anchoring their pitching staff and at the very least can chew up innings on his way to an audition for another team. This could work to the Marlins advantage and expect Nolasco to be dealt for another package of prospects – yet don’t be saddened. The Marlins have a stud in Jose Fernandez who is a legit #1 starter on most MLB staffs and has the brass to show it once he gets a call up. This may be exactly the kind of transition you will see the Marlins plan out for the 2013 season.

Yet, what about the other starters? Jacob Turner is someone who draws comparisons to another failed Tiger prospect the Marlins dealt for – Andrew Miller. Although Turner disappointed in his early stint with the Tigers, amassing an 8.03 ERA in 12.1 IP with 7Ks and 7BBs, he gave the Marlins something to grin about. With the Fish he pitching 42.2 IP and held down a 3.38 ERA over that span. He also K’d 29 batter and allowed only 9 BBs. He also only surrendered a .208 AVG to hitters and in Marlins Park, a place where there is not a ton of home runs hit, you have to like those numbers to continue. Plus the defense is improved – despite the loss of Jose Reyes, the addition of Adeiny Hechavarria will pick that up and the addition of Placido Polanco at 3B will dramatically help. When a hitter makes contact, expect the Marlins defense to hoover it up and keep the game close defensively.

Nathan Eovaldi is a guy whose arm action and delivery give some a few concerns. Yet Jackson reports that the mechanics have been cleaned up and we may see better results. If you look at his last 5 results, in particular his last 3, improved numbers are gleaned. He reached the 6th inning in each of his last three starts and in all of those occasions, he struck out more hitters than he gave up hits. He did acquire a lot of losses last season and his sampling size with the Dodgers and Marlins were very similar and the numbers were as well. Yet over the course of the season, perhaps being on a new team and greater opportunity could help lead to his development. He is expected to be 3rd or 4th starter for this team and Rob Brantly seems to like his stuff and he would know being behind the plate catching Eovaldi. The key is for Eovaldi to mature as a pitcher and he cites better command of his offspeed stuff could help him make the leap forward. Having a year under his belt, look for Eovaldi to get more K’s and use his offspeed repertoire more effectively – otherwise, it could be a long season every 3rd or 4tfh day for the Fish.

Henderson Alvarez has eaten up innings but his ERA (4.85) and the amount of hits (216) and home runs he gives (29) up will alarm most. Run producers killed him, hitting .342 against him last season. Jackson reports that the Marlins like him because he has good stuff. Yet, the data doesn’t yield that opposing hitters are particularly afraid of his stuff. His HR/9 is 1.4 for 2012, but was only 1.1 for his 2011 season – not all that much better. His K/9 sank from 5.7 in 2011 to 3.8 in 2012. His K/BB ratio sank from 5.00 in 2011 to 1.46 in 2012. Of all of the starters, this is the one that seems to be the weakest in terms of stats and projecting numbers heading into 2013.

Projections

So what kinds of numbers can we expect from each of these 4 starters?

  • Ricky Nolasco - 202 IP, 4.49 ERA, 9.6 H/9, 1.1 HR/9, 2.1 BB/9, 7.4 K/9, 54% WPCT (14-16 wins)
  • Jacob Turner - 177 IP, 5.19 ERA, 8.9 H/9, 1.6 HR/9, 2.7 BB/9, 5.9 K/9, 25% WPCT (6-8 wins)
  • Nathan Eovaldi – 175 IP, 4.15 ERA, 9.4 H/9, 0.7 HR/9, 3.9 BB/9, 5.9 K/9, 25% WPCT (6-8 wins)
  • Henderson Alvarez – 208 IP, 4.52 ERA, 10.0 H/9, 1.3 HR/9, 2.2 BB/9, 4.3 K/9, 37% WPCT (8-10 wins)

The Marlins have to find a way to replace the near 400 IP that Mark Buerhle and Josh Johnson took with them when they were traded. If these projections hold up, and they are basically career averages at this point for Turner, Eovaldi, and Alvarez, then the Marlins have a solid foundation for 2013 and beyond. They won’t bring home the pennant, but they can give their team a chance to win most nights.

I expect Turner to improve on his numbers across the board, while it is probably a good bet that Eovaldi and Alvarez pretty much come in with their projections. Alvarez may be able to drop a smidge off the home run tally, playing at Marlins Park. It is a good bet there will be a lot of hits given up by this staff, looking at their projections per 9. They will have to find ways to sprinkle those hits and strand runners with double plays and throwing out base stealers.

I do expect Nolasco to be dealt and be replaced by Jose Fernandez. Wade LeBlanc should win the 5th spot and he may actually prove to be a solid enough starter to be this year’s Justin Ruggiano-like find. The most glaring weakness of this staff is Alvarez’s potentially horrific bleeding on the mound, which may require someone to be called up – perhaps a guy like Sanabia who can throw strikes. The Marlins are concerned with Alvarez pitching in the WBC but it may serve as a way to propel the young starter into a productive season.

The bottom line is the Marlins have to throw strikes and keep the ball in the yard to be successful. Their defense has to be up to the task of fielding what looks to be a lot of balls in play. If they can convert these opportunities into outs and spread out the hits, the Marlins have a good chance to see the 4 members of this front part of the rotation reach 10 wins on average. The 2006 squad saw Dontrelle Willis, Scott Olsen, Josh Johnson, Ricky Nolasco, and Anibal Sanchez each win at least 10 wins.

 

Marlins Changing Gears, Look to the Future

July 27, 2012 in Fish Farm

One of the large criticisms in the wake of the Hanley Ramirez deal can be why did they make a deal for Carlos Lee that cost them 3B prospect Matt Dominguez?

Dominguez was being primed as the 3B of the future for the Marlins, but his hitting wasn’t amounting to much. Sure, the kid can use the leather and many were comparing him early on to Ryan Zimmerman, but his hitting just never appeared. So the Marlins looked around and grabbed Carlos Lee as a way to bolster their lineup and try and squeeze more runs out of this offense.

Yet, things change. The Marlins didn’t really score runs. They have just 30 runs in the 13 games since the All Star Break. Looking at the depth in the standings, and weighing their payroll and clubhouse situation, a move was not only needed, but justified. Old Marlins fans will be sensitive to this, with the past talks of “fire sales” looming and being drummed up again. There are those who will moan such talk and point to new factors shaping this situation – namely, a new ballpark.

Even the new ballpark can’t save this team. Currently the Marlins are selling only at just above 76% capacity, which puts them at 12th in the league in that stat. They have amassed over 1.4M fans to the new destination so far, averaging 28.5K a night. Considering the fact that even now, the Fish owe $66 million to 8 players next season, a “restructuring” is indeed called for.

You can see the change – Carlos Lee is the barometer. Lee was the last gasp for this team to turn things around and it just didn’t happen. Blame can be pinned on Heath Bell and Hanley’s lack of leadership and maturity, but the fact of the matter is that this team has underperformed. Losing Giancarlo Stanton was no easy thing either, especially considering it took him a while to get started this season.

One of the key things is getting young pitching. Whenever the Marlins “reload” it starts with pitching. See ’97. See 2003. Any great era in Marlins history was built with the foundation of starting pitching. When the 2008 team was coming around, it was very good young throwers that made that team interesting – Scott Olsen, Josh Johnson, Ricky Nolasco, Dontrelle Willis (the grizzled veteran). Summarizing the motives for the recent deals, Larry Beinfest said, “We wanted to target young starting pitching. We think it is the most coveted thing in the game, the toughest thing to acquire. We’re talking about top-end, young starting pitching.’’

So, with Nathan Eovaldi and Jacob Turner, the Marlins feel they were able to do just that. Eovaldi will start Saturday while Turner gets some work with AAA NOLA. Yes, the Fish have done this before (Ryan Dempster, Brad Penny, Josh Beckett, AJ Burnett, Andrew Miller), some more or less successful than others. Now the challenge for this team is not only to reload, but to rise in the standings and to do so much more quickly now than ever before. In the past, the fan base would be a bit more patient considering the franchise’s tight purse strings and economic situation, but that has changed. The Fish can spend money and in dealing away Hanley, Infante, and Sanchez, they have freed up the funds to spend on another key acquisition. They signed Reyes, Buehrle, and Bell this past offseason and generated quite a bit of hype and they will be expected to do so again.

One of the glaring holes, however, is 3B. Dealing Dominguez for the Lee experiment, since Gaby Sanchez’s bat has become suddenly questionable, and dealing away apparent clubhouse “cancer” Hanley Ramirez has left the Marlins with few options at the hot corner. There is talk of dealing Josh Johnson to the Rangers for Mike Olt, their prized 3B of the future, but if Beinfest’s comments are to be taken seriously they can’t afford to deal Johnson at this point because he is their #1 starter on this staff. Adding into the mix Eovaldi and Turner may net the Marlins a 5th starter with Nolasco, Buehrle, and Johnson anchoring the staff.

Moving forward, the Marlins have to find a way to shore up their bullpen, yet again, and look to get production from 1B and 3B. Moving Bonifacio to 2B seems permanent now, which also opens up some holes in CF. Perhaps a revisit of Chris Coghlan could be in the works, but Ruggiano is putting up pretty strong numbers with full time PT in CF right now. The Marlins have no foreseeable option for 3B on the farm, and Christian Yelich is being groomed for the OF. They do have lots of intriguing pitching options but it remains to be seen if they can stick as starters or fill out roles in the bullpen.